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Posted by: fxdlidon Posted on: Monday, November 17th, 2008, 9:25:07pm

I picked these up at the weekend - GSXR1000 coil overs (It's handy having a mate who owns a bike breakers) But in order to try and make them work I need the make and part number of the ignitor that came with our setup so I can get 2 more. I'm sure it was mentioned in the original thread somewhere but I can't find it (eh?)

Can anyone help??? please!

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Tuesday, November 18th, 2008, 1:06:40am
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I think I have it in a file at home from the original fitting info.
I will try and find it tonight or just get 2 from Adaptronic in the UK maybe?

Posted by: Derek (Guest) Posted on: Wednesday, November 19th, 2008, 8:53:07pm
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Just going by what chernobyl mentioned earlier in the alternate ecu thread!
Bosch ignition module BIM 085
http://apps.bosch.com.au/products/saa/ignition_modules.pdf
Picture of it also on Section 4 page 29
Hope that helps and good luck with it!






Posted by: jaik (Guest) Posted on: Wednesday, November 19th, 2008, 10:54:24pm
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Just to clarify, are these coilpacks for the spark plugs? If so, are they also known as coilovers (like the suspension) or has fxdlidon just had a long day? :D

Posted by: fxdlidon Posted on: Thursday, November 20th, 2008, 2:35:09am
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yeps - I was having a bad day (confused) meant to say coilpacks (should possibbley change the title of the thread)

and thanks DeeZ, thats the info I was looking for - will have to be the weekend after next as I'm busy this one ( I "volenteered" to fit a kitchen! ) - will give me time to get the ignitors at least.

Posted by: fxdlidon Posted on: Sunday, January 25th, 2009, 8:20:00pm
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Well I finally got around to trying these today - it's taken me a while to source some suitable ignitors and make up the sub-loom for it all.

The good news is it fired up on the first touch of the key (bigsmile), which on a stone cold engine, at about 4C is an absolute miracle. The bad news is it only fired up on 2 (sad)

I swapped over the coilpacks and I've since checked the loom - no probs there. I've either got the settings in wari wrong or a duff ignitor.

I was running out of daylight so I had to put everything back to standard, but I'll have another go next weekend - given the way it fired up immediately on only 2 makes me think this might be worth persuing if only for the cold starting benifits.

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Sunday, November 21st, 2010, 3:10:18am
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I picked up these this week.

A Crank Angle Sensor from a Toyota 1GGZE.
24 tooth sync/home/reset.

3 Coilovers from a Nissan R33 Series 2 that have built in ignitors with part of the loom with plugs to match.

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Sunday, November 21st, 2010, 3:13:39am
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Heres a pic of the coilovers sitting on the LGD's engine just for a test fit.

I got them off a guy who fitted them to an F6AT FWD Mightyboy, but I dont think he could set it up properly.
He had the CAS turned down slightly in a lathe so it fits straight in where the distributor fits.
I plan not only to fit the CAS and Coilovers but with this CAS I should be able to set up individual synchronous fuel injection also.

Posted by: fxdlidon Posted on: Sunday, November 21st, 2010, 6:50:43pm
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Way to go grant :)
Bigest problem you'll have, I think, is sorting out a feed for the tacho as you'll be using all 3 of ignition outputs on the adaptronic.
I like the fact you've found a CAS that fits(ish) - my original idea was to fit a trigger wheel into he base of the standard distributor

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Monday, November 22nd, 2010, 12:41:53am
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Tacho output shouldnt be a problem as you can use and configure one of auxillary outputs for that.

I may not get a chance to fit it until after christmas now with the usual end of year goings on.

It will probably take a week or two to get my head around the ingnition cam angle settings anyway.

Posted by: Ricou Posted on: Tuesday, November 23rd, 2010, 4:53:20pm
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What kind of benefits are you expecting from this setup Grant ?

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Wednesday, November 24th, 2010, 12:14:11am
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Quoted from Ricou, posted Tuesday, November 23rd, 2010, 4:53:20pm at here
What kind of benefits are you expecting from this setup Grant ?



Basically nothing at low rpm but much better spark and reliability at higher rev's.
Standard set up with dizzy and coil leads = say 40K volt at the coil and about 30K volt afdter losses at the plugs.

Coil over plugs = staright 40K volt at the plugs.

No big deal really, however the big benefit is that with a 24 tooth trigger I will be able to set up sequential fuel injection. The standard distributor only give 3 pulses per cam shaft revoltion which makes it a bit difficult.

With sequential fuel injection the injectors have much more dead time making them more realiable/accurate and the whole set up much easier to get a good tune.


Posted by: Ricou Posted on: Wednesday, November 24th, 2010, 4:39:16am
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Thanks for the answer.

Would sequential injection help solving transient throttle issues ?

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Wednesday, November 24th, 2010, 4:48:16am
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Yes and No. It would definately make ity better but that issue is more to do with your basic settings and sometimes the second fuel map.
I dont have any problems at all.

Posted by: mattjohns Posted on: Friday, November 26th, 2010, 10:46:55am
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Don't forget to supply an extra injector driver for cyl 3 as the standard setup has injectors 2 & 3 running on the same wire

Posted by: Wayne2105 Posted on: Monday, November 29th, 2010, 9:10:22pm
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Quoted from mattjohns, posted Friday, November 26th, 2010, 10:46:55am at here
Don't forget to supply an extra injector driver for cyl 3 as the standard setup has injectors 2 & 3 running on the same wire



That's not generally a good thing to do, to keep the injector dead-times the same the current loading needs to be the same for each injector driver.

If you must share one output for two cylinders then share 1 & 3 and have 2 on its own output, that way number two will be slightly richer which it would benefit from, since it runs hotter.

Posted by: Ricou Posted on: Monday, November 29th, 2010, 9:50:42pm
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I thought it was cylinder 3 that was the hotest one ?

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Tuesday, November 30th, 2010, 12:20:50am
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Each injector will have seperate drives direct from the ECU, none of them will be shared.

Posted by: Ricou Posted on: Wednesday, April 4th, 2012, 10:56:36am
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One year later ;D

Grant, have you given up on this ?

Don, what about you ?

Posted by: grant4561 Posted on: Sunday, April 22nd, 2012, 8:28:24am
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^ No I have not given up yet I have just been busy/side tracked with other issues like work, camping, kids and worst of all wife commitments!

I am looking for a second hand distributor to mount the CAS sensor as I need the base and I dont want to use one in a working distibutor.

Now you have brought it up I may start to get serious again.

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