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Olyfan
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 9:11:52pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Just thinking today -

If you SORN a car - a Cappo or anything else - its MOT will run out and I doubt if you will keep it insured while off the road. (Any insurance would be invalid anyway without an MOT and Road tax disc.)

You can't get a road tax disc or insurance without an MOT.

When you want to use the car again, how do you get it to an MOT centre? - Do you need to put it on a trailer or arrange garage recovery?

Can you tow it - legally?

Anyone have the facts
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Andy
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 9:14:55pm Quote Report to Moderator
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You can legally travel to and from a pre-booked MOT test without an MOT or Road tax.  Note that the MOT must be pre-booked and you are only allowed to drive straight to and from the test centre.

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crisp
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 10:37:10pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Even with no tax?

This is something I also was intending to look into because my car of course is very doubtful if it'll pass come October, so was going to try sorting it over the Winter (like last year    , but this time I will try honest!)  which meant no tax 'cause I only got 6 mths put on it last time.

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bob_g
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 10:45:04pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Andy's spot on - you can drive to or from any pre-booked ministry test (MOT, VIC, plating inspection) without tax.

some things to note - first, it has to be pre-booked (as in get the garage to put your reg number in the diary when you book it).

second, you legally still need to have insurance (minimum third party) to drive it on the road.

you can drive it home without tax too (whether it passes or fails - but it has to be roadworthy, you can still be prosecuted if it isn't).

you need to be reasonable with the distance - if it's local or the next town, then it's defensible (or possibly even to a specialist a long distance away if there was none nearer), but doing it to get a car home from the other end of the country after buying it could be described as a bit risky.

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crisp
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 10:47:53pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Olyfan, posted Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 9:11:52pm at here
Just thinking today -  and I doubt if you will keep it insured while off the road. (Any insurance would be invalid anyway without an MOT and Road tax disc.)




The only part of the insurance that maybe invalidated is the bit about using it on the road - the rest is still active, eg. theft, or if you're fully comp if someone uninsured towrag parks there 4x4 or Corsa on it whilst on your driveway.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article53153.ece

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article662346.ece

There is also the option of maybe reducing your cover for the period  it being off-the-road, thus reducing premiums.
The old standard is about 6months on, 6months off, so you're only covered on-road March till September inclusive, and off-raod for the winter.

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bob_g
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 10:48:28pm Quote Report to Moderator
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One other thing - note that technically, a car being towed has to have tax, MOT & insurance too - unless it's a trailer, and then it has to have working brakes & lights (like a trailer would - so the brakes come on when the towing car slows down) unless it's under 750kg.

PS - a standard cappo plus a-frame weighs more than 750kg
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Olyfan
Posted on: Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 11:17:13pm Quote Report to Moderator
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thanks guys
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Badger
Posted on: Monday, May 26th, 2008, 12:50:47am Quote Report to Moderator
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Please explain....SORN....???
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Olyfan
Posted on: Monday, May 26th, 2008, 9:43:32am Quote Report to Moderator
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Statutory Off Road Notification
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Andy
Posted on: Monday, May 26th, 2008, 10:22:36am Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Badger, posted Monday, May 26th, 2008, 12:50:47am at here
Please explain....SORN....???



Basically even if the car is not used on a public road it must be taxed or declared 'SORN'.  Even if the car is not on a public road and the tax expires you can be fined for not telling them it is no longer on the road!

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crisp
Posted on: Monday, May 26th, 2008, 12:30:35pm Quote Report to Moderator
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As our lovely peoples Government (the same reds who have reduced our pensions to sweet f-all and increased our taxes, and create graduatiing students with an average £20k+ debt and are borrowing Billions to waste on cr#p) don't stop there.

The SORN, like the UKs annual (or bi-annual) car tax (VED) also has a limited life (max 6 or 12months), so will also expire when the tax would have been due next, so you need to keep declaring SORN if kept off-road for an extended period untaxed - failure to declare or pay now leads to further fines or worse    .
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grant4561
Posted on: Monday, May 26th, 2008, 11:40:36pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Another reason to move to Australia.
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mattjohns
Posted on: Tuesday, May 27th, 2008, 7:53:56am Quote Report to Moderator
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Here in Queensland, you don't even have to get a roadworthy to continue your registration, yes, there are some serious deathtraps driving around but it's cheap.

. . . and we can have almost any (no rude words) combination of numbers and letters on our number plates. 
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