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| paolo |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 11:06:28am |
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For some time I have wanted a sub in my Cappo. However, I wanted it hidden from view but without taking up any valuable storage space. The perfect position was under the passenger seat, the problem was, I could not find any that fitted.
Recently however the Mutant MT5AS came out, and I bought it straight away due to it's dimensions. At only 5 cm deep it fits under the seat (just). It does mean that the passenger seat cannot slide forward as much as it used to, but I always have the passsenger seat all the way back, so it's not a problem.
The sound is awesome. For such a tiny unit it creates a big noise. It transforms the sound in-car and now I have a rocking system. I would recommend this product to any cappo owner who wants more bass but does not want a big box in the footwell.
I was so impressed I have now bought another one for our other Cappo.
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| Andy |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 11:18:28am |
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| Dean_Shields |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 11:41:25am |
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| Very nice Paolo and the price is reasonable as well |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 11:48:30am |
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Nice! 
Is this the only product of its type available now, or are there others?
I can remember seeing slim subs before but I could never find them again!
Did this take much mounting?
And out of curiosity, where have you got your amp?
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Just noticed its already amplified, so just need power cables to it...?
Any idea what kind of damage hooking a 200w amp upto this thing would do? |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 12:11:28pm |
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Is this the only product of its type available now, or are there others?
I can remember seeing slim subs before but I could never find them again
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There are quite a few like this, specially made for small spaces, here is one, and here is another. The Mutant MT5AS however was the smallest and the only one that would fit.
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Did this take much mounting?
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It was fiddly. I had to bolt the seat down at the back first, then slide the sub in from the front, then bolt the front of the seat down. It just sits on the carpet, it comes with sticky velco pads which secure it to the carpet very well so there is no need to screw it to anything. The wiring was pretty easy, It comes with it's own loom. It needs a constant power (I just connected it straight to the battery) and you can also connect it to the stereo so that it only turns on when your stereo is turned on (which is what I did). It also needs a RCA cable to take the sounds from your stereo, so you would need a stereo with RCA outputs (most have them).
It also has a remote control which I have pulled through to the glovebox. This allows the user to turn it on/off and adjust the volume.
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Any idea what kind of damage hooking a 200w amp upto this thing would do?
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Don't know, not sure that would be a good idea to be honest!
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 6:14:43pm |
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In regard to connecting an external amp I think that would be far beyond the power this little sub could take - it's own amp must be pretty close to what it requires.  |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 7:56:54pm |
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Certainly looks very reasonably priced.
If your head unit has low-pass & low-cut filters for the sub and footwells have you altered these to suit as well?
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Monday, August 18th, 2008, 11:48:03pm |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 12:01:54am |
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Very nice guys, but takes all the fun out of showing off......lol, BUILD AN ENCLOSURE.....lol, You know you want to....LAZY BUGGERS.....  |
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| Justin |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 2:08:55am |
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Speaking of these
cleaned the car on the weekend as i fixed up some more of the interior and found one under the drivers seat, intrigued i plugged it in and all i can say is 
LOL factor = 10 |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 4:24:00am |
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Lucky b*gger....so why the Asterisk, when above, it didn't adjust...???  |
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 6:03:51am |
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| it was in captals! |
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| adilmon |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 7:41:40am |
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| Halfords have rebadged The Mutant Sub and sell it under the ripspeed brand for about £50 (I think it's only 100watt though). I have it in my other car |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 8:10:14am |
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Halfords have rebadged The Mutant Sub and sell it under the ripspeed brand for about £50 (I think it's only 100watt though). I have it in my other car
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So they have, here it is. It looks the same, although it does state that it is 69mm deep instead of the mutant's 55mm, not sure why that is....
Good price too, although I did only pay £49 + delivery for the mutant via Ebay.
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 8:14:18am |
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Just checked the ripspeed site, looks like it is even cheaper there......
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| hemanismyhero |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 10:16:25am |
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| Thats great value! Is there a big difference in the quality of the Ripspeed at only 100w? |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Tuesday, August 19th, 2008, 11:30:54am |
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The Specs on the mutant sub are sounding by far and away the best, with dimensions and max power, its just dissapointing its activily amplified! When I mentioned seeing slim subs before, I meant just the speaker, no housing or amp and I was considering the possibilty of mounting one behind the passenger seat rather than under it.
But que sera, sera.
The idea of having 2 items of Ripspeed littering the inside of the car is perishable, one is more than enough!
While on topic, I have a spare 200w Mutant amp, if interested drop me a PM |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 1:06:39pm |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 7:17:18pm |
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Those still need a box to put them in or they'll sound sh#t.
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Sealed Box Volume: 0.35 - 0.70 cubic feet
Ported Box Volume: 0.35 - 0.70 cubic feet
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0.35 sft = 8.4567"x8.4567"x8.4567"
To fit behind seat? 
Driver needs 3" clearance and the mounting depth is 3" then (assuming that the shallow depth won't have too great a detriment on the sound).
So, to fit under/behind the seat in an 18mm MDF box it would need 6"+ 0.75"= 6.75" deep at the shallowest.
Of course you could make it fit behind the seat?
Internal 2.25"d x12"h x22.4"w
External =(3.75"depth with guards to give 6" clearance so more) >6"dx13.5"h x23.9"w
That's if I can still addup in old fashioned money?  |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 7:58:20pm |
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Ok so I hadn't done any measurements, but I had visions of cutting into things, either the boot wall or if the was too imposing the seat. I've seen many a seat mounted speaker before. but perhaps its not going to be that likely I'll be doing that anytime soon as....
I now own a *shudder* Ripspeed 100w underseat sub!
£33.49 in store, had to ask for it to be reduced.
All the wiring in the box, several fittings and a single sheet of instructions!
Only one thing to let you know its a Ripspeed product really...
Bag of rusty screws!
I'll have fun fitting that another day, don't suppose theres an SOP for taking the passenger seat out is there?
Be interesting to see how it compares to its mutant brother!
And for the record its a very bad idea to wire a 200w amp up to a 100w amp. |
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| Andy |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 8:01:38pm |
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The seats come out really easily.
Undo the two front bolts.
Slide the seat fully forward.
Undo the two rear bolts.
Take out seat. |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 8:16:05pm |
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The ripspeed looks identical to the mutant product. It seems odd that there is so much difference in the height , 55mm for the mutant, and 67mm for the ripspeed.
Leddicoat, can you measure the depth of yours just to clarify? I hate to say it but if it is 67mm you are going to struggle with getting it under the seat |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 8:42:19pm |
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Its about actually about 60mm (+/- 2mm) deep from the tip of the cage to the bottom of the magnet bulge. Thats measured pretty roughly with a couple of straight edges but theres no way its a full 67mm.
What kind of restraints that can get in the way are on the bottom of the seat?
If it really isn't going to fit as is, I'm sure a I kind find a few mm somewhere!
Looking at the pics again, the resemblance is beyond a joke, if the insides are different fair enough but that is the same case molding no doubt in my mind. |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 9:09:54pm |
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It's the same case for sure, so it will fit ok.
As far as the seat goes, the problem I had is that there is a horizontal bar at the back of the seat. It is pretty low so I had to slide the sub in from the front. However, you will have to bolt the seat down at the rear FIRST, because if you did'nt, you would not be able to slide the seat forward enough to get to the rear bolts, as the sub is in the way.
You'll know what I mean when you come to install it! |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 9:23:27pm |
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If the weathers fine I might have a lash at it tmw.
Hmmm, if its up to scratch might get one for the drivers side too ^^
Starting to think though, this sub cant be much bigger than my 6x9's, but should be able to get better dedicated bass from it. I'll not know till its fitted! |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Wednesday, August 20th, 2008, 11:37:04pm |
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Maybe there are 2 versions/models of these with different depth and power output?
Mutant 5cm and rated @ 50watts RMS.
Jaycar Response & others 6.9cm and rated @ 90watts RMS. |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Thursday, August 21st, 2008, 7:17:14am |
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That's EXACTLY what I have in my Sub Enclosure No.2.....still to be finished.
When I saw the price, thought way too much, then realised for a pair, so price compatible with same over here.... .
The 2 x 12" I put into the Mirage Pods, came out of carpeted Pioneer Boxes measuring...550w x 370h x 150d. slightly larger than the 10", but I don't have that problem with the Enclosure... |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Thursday, August 21st, 2008, 11:09:24am |
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Stop it Sneaza, you're making me jealous 
This must only be about a 9" sub. |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 8:36:37am |
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Oh my God! What a pig of a job that was!!!
Without bolting the front down the Left hand side slide moves independantly of the right hand side slide with the handle 
Getting it all lined up was frustrating, especially down the space back there, but its done.
Ran into a couple more problems, I got a few pics on the way I'll post later.
Anyway, the sub! Its quite a meaty sound I have to admit, lot louder than I was expecting. Will require some fine tuning to get it properly in sync with the other speakers/amp but for less than £50 its an absolute bargain.
About 2 hours fitting time, with a couple of problems but all the power/remote wires to hand. |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 8:42:19am |
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| Good work Leddicoat, we must spread the word, and make it an MOT requirement to have a sub installed. |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 8:49:08am |
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Question is now, do I get one for the drivers side and enjoy the a*se rumbling goodness
I takeit you've tried sitting on the passenger seat while its on? It's friggin' nuts.
I was so wrong to compare this to a 6x9" Speaker. |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 8:59:49am |
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That would be pretty cool, I have tried sitting on the passenger seat with it on, it's very rumbly indeed, at first I thought it was the curry I had previously.
Problem with putting one under the drivers seat is that it will restrict the distance that the seat can slide forward, so it may not be suitable for persons of restricted growth. |
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 9:06:56am |
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it may not be suitable for persons of restricted growth.
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I think they prefer to be called the "vertically challenged".
I'm more concerned about the thought of getting two Ripspeed products to play at the same volume! |
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 2:54:26pm |
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They should play at the same volume and sync as each other since it's an all in one unit. It must have a small amp inside the casing so providing they are exactly the same model you should have no issues
I am going to have fun fitting my two 10" PHD subs in my capp though! Need Sneaza's skills to make the enclosure and then it will just be a matter of what frequency to cross them over at (my radio/HU has scope to have stereo subs running or mono too! ) |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 6:20:04pm |
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so it may not be suitable for persons of restricted growth.
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Oi !
It's not my fault the end stops are just in the right place  for my normal height.
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| Leddicoat |
| Posted on: Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 8:14:27pm |
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Spaghetti anyone?
As chaotic as this looks, wiring didn't take 2mins, just had to connect the power/ground/remote to the amp. |
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| Dean_Shields |
| Posted on: Saturday, August 23rd, 2008, 4:21:14pm |
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| Just fitted mine sounds great |
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| paolo |
| Posted on: Saturday, August 23rd, 2008, 5:52:04pm |
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Cool! Ripspeed or Mutant? |
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| Dean_Shields |
| Posted on: Saturday, August 23rd, 2008, 6:24:40pm |
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| Ripspeed got 10% off because my mate works there plus 15% with one off those vouchers they are doing at this moment, so just under 35 nicker can't complain.Cheers Paolo for spotting them. |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Sunday, August 24th, 2008, 1:06:44am |
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Couldnt help myself so I just bought the Jaycar one mainly because the other 2 brands arent in Australia and it has a higher RMS rating. $ 99.00 AUD.
Been looking at them for a while and didnt think they would fit under the seat but if Paulo got his in I should be fine. |
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