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Sulki sees a strip show... (Brappuccino) (currently 10648 views) |
Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 1:51:31pm |
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Quoted from Andy, posted Saturday, August 25th, 2007, 9:43:08pm at here |
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What size pipework were you thinking of using?
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Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 1:55:57pm |
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Just wondered if this would be any good?
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 2:35:33pm |
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I think 2.5" would be about right - what replacement turbo would you put on the car?
Any idea if the turbo outlet elbow will rotate (are the fixings equally spaced).
I was talking to Jaik about it, we can try it out on Rusty - can cut holes wherever you like in that one, and the engine's still fitted. there were three ways of doing it -
1) straight pipe from the turbo outlet, inside a structural tube to re-inforce where it needs to go- easy & good for performance, not so good for noise.
2) rotate the turbo outlet, put a silencer where the battery is, then down & back into the footwell, then out - metalwork's not too hard, but would have to move the main wiring loom, battery, engine ecu, etc etc.
3) follow the existing downpipe until the bend, then go into the footwell, put a flatish silencer in the footwell with a heatshield over it, then up & out of the holes - a lot more metalwork, but less messing with the car.
All could be done, just depends how much you want to cut the car about.
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Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 2:45:32pm |
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Hmmm straight swap turbos are few and far between. This pic shows the outlet and it wouldn't be possible to rotate it.
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jaik |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 2:53:45pm |
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I reckon taking the exhaust off after the cat would give a fair impression of how loud it would be with no silencer so you could at least tell just what the volume would be like. Go oooonnnnn!!!! |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 9:05:42pm Attachment: cimg1322.jpg - 70.26 KB (825 views) |
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OK - you beat me down
took the exhaust off Rusty, I have a video - any idea how to strip the sound off it & make an mp3 of it?
I think it sounds a bit tractory to be honest - the sound in the vid is pretty close to real life.
Couldn't really give it much of a thrash as all the neighbours were out in their gardens around (this one is in the back garden).
After hearing it I reckon it would sound much better with a silencer in there, or at least a bit more pipe length.
I did make one decision though - I don't like the dash I made, so am going to have another attempt. Here's a pic of the first attempt (not finished, but roughly to the shape it would have ended up. |
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Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 9:30:20pm |
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What this one? http://www.mediafire.com/?fzwr4y3hnth (11mb) |
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Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 9:38:50pm |
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And here's the audio stripped from the video http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzytlrqkmp (less than 200kb) |
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jaik |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 9:52:13pm |
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Depends what it would sound like under load really. I think it sounds alright, but it depends whether it would keep the tractory feel or not when the revs and boost get up.
Nice one for making that video |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 10:32:33pm |
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I reckon it could sound quite good when driven hard, but the idle really doesn't sound good.
Suki has a near enough straight through system on, but with plenty of pipe length, and sounds very good at idle, but seems to get quieter with speed.
maybe a new front wing is required - with the holes in a different place?
It's a good job there's a lot less science to turbo exhaust systems than there is to non-turbo ones |
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jaik |
Posted on: Sunday, August 26th, 2007, 11:33:45pm |
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I was looking at a Westfield today and thought if you had wide arches, you could probably get away with running the exhaust out of the front then down the side of the car (like this). |
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capgun |
Posted on: Monday, August 27th, 2007, 1:46:47am |
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Looking very interesting, like the dash! Noticed the doorhandles have been shaved and all the gaps in the panels are filled!
You could have a play around with resonators for a different note |
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Badger |
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Weld the Bonnet to the Gaurds..like the E-Type, so it will lift as one...like below, Cut through the inner Wheel Well/Arches, Modify the Lower Guard and Install a set of Cobra Side Pipes..........SWEEEEEEEETTTT !!! . Like the Concept Bob, 'specially the Dash and Pllarless Windscreen Idea...very Modern Hot- Rod, then replicate behind the Seats to mirror the front ??? |
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crisp |
Posted on: Monday, August 27th, 2007, 7:03:17pm |
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What a nice red little car that is Sneaza.
Bob, I'm tending to agree with these guys about the side exhaust setup I'm afraid and yjink it'll match in quite well.
I think it'll look REALLY different when done - in a good way of course .
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bob_g |
Posted on: Monday, August 27th, 2007, 10:11:12pm |
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hmm...
I'll have to have a play & see what I can come up with - As I'm going to have to custom make an exhaust - any ideas on what Turbo to put on - what is the standard one good for, is it worth changing? |
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jaik |
Posted on: Monday, August 27th, 2007, 11:35:12pm |
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I think the standard one's good for maybe 85-90hp? The thing is, at higher boost the stock turbo just can't push enough air to keep it going at higher revs. A larger turbo will probably spool up a bit later in the rev range but should keep at full boost at higher revs. |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Friday, August 31st, 2007, 8:47:44pm Attachment: cimg1378sm.jpg - 105.26 KB (753 views) |
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Tried the side exhaust idea on Rusty today - I think it looks ok - would need a new lower panel making (not too hard), but I think it's definitely doable. |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Friday, August 31st, 2007, 8:49:20pm Attachment: outsidetgx.jpg - 84.07 KB (750 views) |
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although I did see this on one of our competitor's new truck at work today (680bhp V8 MAN TGX if you're interested), and quite like the look of this. |
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jaik |
Posted on: Friday, August 31st, 2007, 8:50:33pm |
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Brilliant stuff |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Friday, August 31st, 2007, 9:35:52pm Attachment: cimg1382sm.jpg - 88.04 KB (745 views) |
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pic of where the silencer fits in the footwell too |
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jaik |
Posted on: Friday, August 31st, 2007, 10:14:53pm |
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I'm so glad you have Rusty to try this out on |
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hemanismyhero |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 1:46:50pm |
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Great link Bob, Are you building a track car or is it just for general fun! |
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Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 7:20:49pm |
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INSANE..........I like it. The overall effect is excellent. Is the Cannon actually connected...???, looks a bit long, and would interfere with Gearbox, not to mention radius of pipe bend to come back onto existing exhaust.
But using what you have done, If you Shortened the pipe and removed the Outer Skin under the door... Panel beat the metal to accept sidepipes, they would be virtually molded into the body, especially if you re-attached the Outer Skin and you could put back the lower Panel........it's just another thought ......I really like Sidepipes....... |
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crisp |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 7:33:59pm |
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THis one's nice :
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Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 7:40:24pm Attachment: 101_0299.jpg - 22.76 KB (698 views) |
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Outstanding.................like the wheels, similar to what's on my FTO..... |
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crisp |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 7:45:31pm |
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Here's a better view of the wheels, just for you
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Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 7:48:47pm |
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Cheers Crisp.......I LIKE 'EM |
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crisp |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 8:49:19pm |
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Black and silver.
Getting a lot of them I've seen recently around here.
Silver Cappo, Silver and black wheels, black Cappo side badges, black "S" bonnet badge, black touring rack....?????
Nah, not for me.Silver and wood touring rack from an LE would be nice though on mine. Santa? You listening, Santa? I've been a very good boy this year! |
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Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 9:15:14pm |
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LOL.....You'll have to give 'er a nudge, drop some subtle hints, stick notes all over the house.........
Black and Silver over here to atmo.....Still prefer my Chromes.......... |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 9:30:29pm |
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Quoted from hemanismyhero, posted Sunday, September 23rd, 2007, 1:46:50pm at here |
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Great link Bob, Are you building a track car or is it just for general fun!
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Just for general road use - not really fir the daily commute, but definitely to use.
Need to get some work moving on it really, the new silencer is here for the side exit tho - pics to follow when it's fitted. |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 10:24:03pm Attachment: image001sm.jpg - 55.57 KB (653 views) |
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Some good progress this weekend, no good pics though - all the welding apart from one bit (where the exhaust will come through the bulkhead)is now complete
The tube that the silencer will sit in is now in & fully welded, the bracing is all fully welded, the floor patches are welded both sides, and I've worked out my seat and seatbelt installations.
Next step is to temporarily mount a front subframe with block, head, exhaust manifold & turbo outlet flange to let me build the exhaust system & cut the bulkhead to suit, then get the car on its side & clean the underside ready for paint.
Although my camera is AWOL, my helpful friend (who did most of the welding while I did his work - structural steel & wrought iron fencing) took some pictures with his phone, so you can see how the car looks now.
While I was at it I also added a bonnet vent, but as I couldn't bring myself to cut the bonnet, it's in the scuttle panel instead.
If you get the chance to use a Plasma cutter for cutting out steel, then do so - it's so much faster and easier than any other method I've come across - got to get me one of those
Picture looking forwards - can see exhaust tube in the passenger footwell. |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 10:24:46pm Attachment: image002sm.jpg - 35.64 KB (651 views) |
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Picture of the outside (not fully welded in this shot) |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 10:26:00pm Attachment: image003sm.jpg - 49.99 KB (650 views) |
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And last one for now, a lovely picture of me welding (trying to blob up the hole I burnt) |
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Andy |
Posted on: Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 10:29:48pm |
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Great to see and hear how things are progressing. |
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jaik |
Posted on: Sunday, December 2nd, 2007, 11:25:27pm |
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Looking good so far |
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capgun |
Posted on: Monday, December 3rd, 2007, 3:23:47am |
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Sulki is going to be one rigid capp! |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Monday, December 17th, 2007, 10:10:14pm Attachment: 1217210419.jpg - 69.39 KB (599 views) |
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Got the subframes back today - Galvanised, just need to acid dip them & paint them (8-10 coats of vinyl enamel I think) |
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bob_g |
Posted on: Monday, December 17th, 2007, 10:11:15pm Attachment: 1217210556.jpg - 76.33 KB (596 views) |
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And rear one |
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Andy |
Posted on: Monday, December 17th, 2007, 10:17:52pm |
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capgun |
Posted on: Tuesday, December 18th, 2007, 2:15:56am |
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Shiny! should get then chromed! |
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