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dave660
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 3:35:39am
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Its been a very long time in the making but my cap is pretty much finished now except for a few small bits and pieces.The new engine has been run in and is getting tuned as we speak.It's suprised me at how much of a head turned it has become as it gets alot of attention wherever i go

Mechanically the car has been behaving perfectly, until yesterday when it was strapped on the dyno for a limited power run,where  i found the limits of the standard gearbox when it destroyed itself now i have the major task of finding  someone in australia that can build me a stronger gearset that will be able to handle the power that im going to be putting out.
Looking at the power that the engine was putting out before the gearbox blew im fairly confident that this is the most powerful F6A around

AS soon as i get it back on the road it will be appearing on the covers of Zoom and High Performance Imports, 2 magazines in australia which im over the moon with 

heres a pic of the engine bay

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Badger
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 6:12:29am Quote Report to Moderator
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Looking good, sorry to hear about the box, where are the pics of the Carbon Roof Panels...??? lol

btw, what was the dyno figure before it let go...???
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dave660
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 6:16:53am Quote Report to Moderator
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i forgot all about the roof pics they will be a bit longer now as the car is in the workshop...

gearbox let go at 125kw...theres still more in the motor tho >
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paolo
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 9:18:06am Quote Report to Moderator
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125kw = 169bhp!!  Wow!  NIIIICCE Cappo, love the detailing the engine bay too, no wires!
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Olyfan
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 9:44:18am Quote Report to Moderator
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Magnificent - just superb Dave
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paolo
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 10:02:24am Quote Report to Moderator
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Three thumbs up from me!!
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Olyfan
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 10:10:41am Quote Report to Moderator
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Two lots of three thumbs up - any advance.......................
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Jeremy_Cairns
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 10:32:26am Quote Report to Moderator
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WOW!
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Andy
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 10:57:26am Quote Report to Moderator
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Three thumbs?  Bit of interbreeding going on in your neck of the woods guys?

Got to agree though, stunning bit of kit Dave.  Look forward to scans of the magazines too

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Olyfan
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 11:07:57am Quote Report to Moderator
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vg Andy.
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dave660
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 11:25:15am Quote Report to Moderator
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thanks guys hopefully the new gearbox will be strong enough for full power
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Cappo
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 1:59:05pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Impressive stuff!  Any chance of a rundown on the spec? 

Crux do a close ratio gearset - not sure how it compare to standard strength-wise...

Looking forward to seeing the magazine features.

Andy
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scotcap
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 3:58:23pm Quote Report to Moderator
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It's a shame you need to cover that glorious engine up with a bonnet!!
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capgun
Posted on: Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 4:01:44pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Looks so good Dave! (thanks for the info with the bonnets recently too, going to get one soon )
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Badger
Posted on: Friday, January 25th, 2008, 6:18:05am Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Cappo, posted Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 1:59:05pm at here
Impressive stuff!  Any chance of a rundown on the spec? 

Crux do a close ratio gearset - not sure how it compare to standard strength-wise...

Looking forward to seeing the magazine features.

Andy



If you look in the SNEAZA Album, page 2, 'bout 1/2 way down.......gives you some idea of what's in there...........
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crisp
Posted on: Friday, January 25th, 2008, 9:02:21am Quote Report to Moderator
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Looking good   
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ThePorko
Posted on: Friday, January 25th, 2008, 9:20:07am Quote Report to Moderator
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Awesome mate...cant wait!!!
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DickW
Posted on: Friday, January 25th, 2008, 12:06:51pm Quote Report to Moderator
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This car needs a sequential box !!! 

Talk to the Aussie Racing crew...  Their engines are 125bhp ...

http://www.aussieracingcars.com.au/

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dave660
Posted on: Monday, January 28th, 2008, 3:27:08am Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from paolo, posted Thursday, January 24th, 2008, 9:18:06am at here
125kw = 169bhp!!  Wow!  NIIIICCE Cappo, love the detailing the engine bay too, no wires!



that 125kw is at the wheels im not too good with percentages but it would be a fair bit more than 169bhp (30% more if im not wrong) but willing to be corrected 
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Andy
Posted on: Monday, January 28th, 2008, 3:14:32pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Transmission losses are probably around 20%ish at a guess.

Paolo has done a simple conversion from KW to BHP which is correct but doesn't take into account that your figure is at the rear wheels and bhp is at the fly.

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paolo
Posted on: Monday, January 28th, 2008, 4:00:43pm Quote Report to Moderator
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So we are talking more like 200Bhp at the flywheel?    No wonder the gearbox gave up 
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dave660
Posted on: Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 6:38:56am Quote Report to Moderator
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yeah i my guesses were all around the 210-220bhp mark...with more to come
i'll keep you posted.hopefully someone can come up with something for me gearbox wise.
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loufred
Posted on: Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 11:34:56am Quote Report to Moderator
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nice, did u happen to have any on that power on the road. or u put it on the dyno right away? i so want around 200 bhp and want to know what it is like to drive in a car like this. surly it could be a lambo killer?
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dave660
Posted on: Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 12:40:10pm Quote Report to Moderator
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well my old motor had just over 150hp at the wheels,it was pretty fast - easily beat rx8,200sx,300zx...the only thing you have to worry about with getting this much power out of a cap motor is that you have to realize it was never made for this much and you're kind of pushing everything to its limits so eventually something will let go, as ive found along the way with almost every part of the car,the only standard thing left in my cap was the gearbox...which has ceased to exist at over 125kw

i calculated that at 150hp a cap has more hp/litre than a brand new evo 8 lancer- not too bad for a three cylinder
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dave660
Posted on: Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 12:41:51pm Quote Report to Moderator
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oh and that 125kw never saw the road, only the dyno - gearbox would have lasted for 5 seconds on the road

im not giving up tho !!
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grant4561
Posted on: Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 7:34:41am Quote Report to Moderator
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I don't know if this will help but from my experience (old drag racing days) more than half the time that gearboxes failed it was due to the casing not being strong enough and either flexing or breaking causing internal gear damage.

A carefull inspection of the casing and gears is needed when pulled down to try and determine the problem. If it appears that its a casing problem we used to get them stengthened by a decent welding or head repair shop but if its weak gears this may mean you have to adapt another box. Years ago we used to adapt Celica 5 speed boxes to Holden sixes & v8's with good success.

What part of OZ are you in?
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dave660
Posted on: Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 8:12:36am Quote Report to Moderator
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yeah they are in the process of pulling the box apart as we speak, so until then i wont know exactly what let go.im in sydney.
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grant4561
Posted on: Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 11:08:29am Quote Report to Moderator
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Get them to check if there are any chatter marks on the gears or evidence of the gears not running  fully seated. This would indicate that the casing has flexed and needs strengthening.
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dave660
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 6:21:10am Quote Report to Moderator
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finally!! my new gearset has arrived today and hopefully within the next weeek the beast will be back on the road
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ThePorko
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 7:38:50am Quote Report to Moderator
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Congrats Dave!
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Badger
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 7:54:30am Quote Report to Moderator
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EGGGXCELLENT, Maybe we can organise a get together again soon...???

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grant4561
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 10:51:52am Quote Report to Moderator
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HAVE to see it Dave!
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capgun
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 1:38:35pm Quote Report to Moderator
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It is worth it! ^

Well done Dave
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svdude
Posted on: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 3:53:56pm Quote Report to Moderator
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wats the spec on ure engine?
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ThePorko
Posted on: Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 12:19:26am Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Badger, posted Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 7:54:30am at here
EGGGXCELLENT, Maybe we can organise a get together again soon...???



Let us know i will be interested in a get together!
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dave660
Posted on: Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 9:24:32am Quote Report to Moderator
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svdude, specs are here : http://www.clubcappo.co.uk/board/Blah/Blah.cgi?b=cr,m=1170494469,s=40

there are a few more things now tho, since i did that list a while ago.. but u get the picture
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Fionn
Posted on: Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 12:04:34pm Quote Report to Moderator
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That looks really excellent!! 
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svdude
Posted on: Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 6:44:15pm Quote Report to Moderator
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didnt u have any crank work wone when u rebuilt engine? lightening and balancing? cryogenic freeze?
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dave660
Posted on: Friday, May 2nd, 2008, 4:45:30am Quote Report to Moderator
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the cap crank is fairly sturdy, i just had it linished.i didnt want to spend too much time with it as ive never had any probs with it..leave well enough alone dont they say
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mattjohns
Posted on: Friday, May 2nd, 2008, 9:42:35am Quote Report to Moderator
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Is there a stronger word for impressed?

perhaps some chassis strenthening is in order
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