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 Fibre Glass Parcel Shelf Enclosure (currently 7424 views) |
| Badger |
Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 8:26:12am
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| Badger |
Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 8:27:25am
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WOOO HOOOO, 3rd Page and counting....  RH Washed |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 8:30:51am
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That's all until Monday....Workus Interuptis..... > . It only gets BETTER and more INTERESTING from here on... |
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 1:57:30pm |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 7:29:48pm |
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I think my intial cast will probably end up a master mould  - more room for correecting errors later and more room to play.
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 9:08:25pm |
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That's all until Monday....Workus Interuptis..... >. It only gets BETTER and more INTERESTING from here on...
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Can't wait!
Just out of interest, but when using carbon instead of glass, am I right in thinking it's the same resin, or is there a specially more clear version?
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Friday, June 13th, 2008, 11:36:18pm |
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| Usually people use epoxy when using the carbonfibre weave/cloth. |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Saturday, June 14th, 2008, 12:26:46am |
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| I Have no answer for that as I haven't used the stuff....But on Monday, I will find out from my supplier and let you know.... |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Saturday, June 14th, 2008, 5:15:28am |
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Already made my start - the fiddly stuuf is sooo much harderr to do than Sneazas big stuff looks 
More later
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Monday, June 16th, 2008, 12:08:16am |
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| Don't forget to take pics for the Album...lol, lets see you do that WITHOUT getting resin on the camera...lol |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Monday, June 16th, 2008, 7:56:30am |
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Don't worry, all will be revealled in a few weeks - if it works!
My first layer I think I'd not enough hardener in it but making up for that yesterday I think I then used too much, lol.
Trial & error!
"Bucket Chemistry", don't you love it!
In the meantime - on with the How to
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Tuesday, June 17th, 2008, 10:13:18am |
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| ....er, not quite yet.....sorry guys, Not been well last couple of days, so other than 2nd layer, which Didn't bother with pics...same as 1st. Will post when dry, then continue, should be better by then.... |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Tuesday, June 17th, 2008, 5:38:55pm |
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Sorry to hear you've not been too good, Sneaza.
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Thursday, June 19th, 2008, 10:20:59pm |
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Don't be too worried if you get any FibreGlass on the Plastic Trims as it won't stick, but if you've covered over correctly, you won't have this problem.
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The resin DOES  stick sometimes, at least to the bit I chose 
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Saturday, June 21st, 2008, 4:50:26pm |
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Took me over an hour to get the mould off the altered original - I knew I should have started with something large and easy like the parcel shelf .
Had to get a screw driver in there to prise it off.
It may need some repairing before the mould can be used.
The original part is not too happy now either and needs a lot of cleaning up
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| mattjohns |
| Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 5:35:19am |
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Quoted from crisp, posted Monday, June 16th, 2008, 7:56:30am at here |
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My first layer I think I'd not enough hardener in it but making up for that yesterday I think I then used too much, lol.
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Go to your local chemist and buy a 5mL syringe. Very easy to use and very accurate. |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 11:06:59am |
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I'm thinking the stuff I made the mold from should have maybe been a bit more pliable?
I've got a 1ml syringe now the rabbit is off medication today, but the hardner is a paste not a liquid and instructions are in cm's, lol.
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| capgun |
| Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 11:35:06am |
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| hardner that's a paste? Wonder what that fibreglass is - I'm only used to seeing liquid catalyst. |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 12:33:33pm |
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The only stuff I could get in town was from Halfrauds, otherwise it means getting stuff off the net (which I'll have to do later anyhow) and messing about with deliveries, or using something like PlasticPadding which comes premixed with glass fibres in it.
Liquid resin in a tin bottle with a separate red paste in a small squeazable foil pack.
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| Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 11:36:27pm
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Interesting.......you say it 'Stuck' to the parcel shelf...???  or did you try to make one from the Fibreglass Shape, WITHOUT USING A RELEASE AGENT...??? lol... I haven't got to this bit yet. , but will in due course........
When dry, flip over and mark out holes that will need to be cut later...easier to do this while still attached
DON'T worry about the small holes...you will not need these , just the Seat belt Holes...top for bolt and bottom long one....Don't worry about gaps on angles...you will not need these either. |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 11:48:02pm
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...as you can see, the resin seeps through....but this will just fall off when you give it a nudge.....
I have just thought of an EASIER way to apply the 'Glass and Resin' to the Fiddly Bits.....I'll post pics later on.
1) Mix up resin and brush on as before.
2) cut Matting into very small pieces...chop it up...( you can buy it like this ) and would be perfect if I'd thought of it sooner...DOH !!!
3) Put pieces into container and pour Resin over and stir/mix until it's like a Paste.
4) Paint this onto fiddly bits and use Dabbing motion again to release Air Bubbles.
5) Add Matting to Large areas and when 'Tacky' but not wet, apply 2nd coat.... |
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 8:03:45am |
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Cheers Sneaza.
The bit that stuck was not the parcel shelf, but something smaller - to be releaved later if I can get it worked how I want it.
I masked up the holes like you said, but not sure if I used the wrong masking tape, but it stuck to the resin sort of and took some getting off - especially in the recesses.
The inside of my new mould is now in need of some reparing then cleaning up and smoothing out before it can be used as a mould. |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 9:42:47am |
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| .....The more you play...The better you'll get. Part 2 coming soon, wanted to finish my Gauge Pod 1st... |
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| crisp |
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Here you go Sneaza, as rrequested, a very quick doodle.
Hopefully you & CG being more into speaker design than me can correct afew faults?
side view (rear -> front)
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| crisp |
| Posted on: Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:28:43pm |
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- Base section GRP as per Sneazas making so far
- Top section with porting fluted over and around the centre console tunnel.
- Speaker mount fits inside the top section around the hole for the main porting, probably GRP'd in place.
- Speaker driver then bolts to the mount.
- I presume as most speakers are designed to be in a box, then we also need a rear box section bolting on afterwards? Size/capacity of this is dependant on individual speaker specs.
- Maybe some nice hex head, or hex/star dome headed stainless cap bolts fixed on the otherside of the GRP into a strip of steel GRP'd in place to hold those rivet nut things to screw the cap heads into?
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 4:56:18am
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Okay...Not how I was imagining it.
I'm going to do it a little differently. My concern right now is what SIZE Sub were you thinking of installing...???, reason, 8"=200mm dia, with, according to CG's measurement, a 7 1/2" Basket....so basically need a space of 200mm square just to mount the Sub.
If you measure the Parcel Shelf you'll see there ain't going to be a lot of space....that said, I will work off the assumption it will be 8" and show you where and what I end up with.....
Now for Part 2....
There are 29 pics and words to follow, so once again, questions/comments at the end...ta.
After 2 layers, you should have summat like this...Front... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 4:56:59am
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 4:59:29am
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| Now you Start to sand it down, again, not heavy, just to smooth out/off the small lumps. 80 grit and a block as before...no need to do the inside, just the front face, top.... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:01:42am
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| ...and back edge. With this done, I turned it all over and with a fine Marker, drew an outline around the shape...where I could reach, this gives you a 'Cut' line.... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:03:20am
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| Also at this point, marked the line for the finished edge...where it will be cut....Pass.Side |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:03:55am
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:05:26am
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| Now we're ready to remove it from the Original.... . Just pry it open and lift off carefully...start with the sides. |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:06:27am
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| Go on...YOU CAN DO IT... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:07:38am
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| ....There ya go, one side off and as smooth as a babys' bum |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:08:55am
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| and this is what happens to the Original Panel.....NOWT. Just have to clean off the excess. |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:10:02am
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| Told you this was EASY..... Other side |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:11:43am
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| ....and the Middle....You can now see the Lines which to cut on... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:16:08am
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As you can see, just how smooth the Back is...because I Painted the Resin on 1st before applying the Matt. I didn't do this on my other enclosure and although the Resin seeps through, didn't come out this smooth.
If you look closely, you can see where the smooth line is ...above the Marker, this is where it will be finished to at the end but for now we cut off the excess to the BLACK LINE.... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:17:57am
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| and here...just Below... |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:19:35am
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| This is where the Tape was and you will sand any rough bits smooth. |
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